The Coaches Group Chat

S2E10: Long Beach v. Irvine, Peeps, and Adolescence

• Matthew Houlihan, Arielle Houlihan, Chad Gordon • Season 2 • Episode 10

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We dive into men's collegiate volleyball rankings and break down the implications of Long Beach State's split with UC Irvine in what was a high-level volleyball showcase with sold-out crowds.

• Clear separation exists between the "top five" teams and everyone else in men's volleyball
• Long Beach maintains #1 ranking despite their loss to UC Irvine in a sold-out match
• Debate over Loyola Chicago's #6 ranking after being "called out of rotation"
• Discussion of whether Long Beach's loss will ultimately benefit them by relieving pressure
• High school volleyball rankings from cousin Greg
• Netflix's "Adolescence" recommended as essential viewing for anyone working with young men
• Each episode of "Adolescence" filmed in a continuous 50-minute single shot
• Comprehensive taste test of nine different Peep varieties
• Classic yellow Peep crowned champion over specialty flavors like Dr. Pepper and Blue Raspberry
• Cotton Candy Peeps universally condemned and "should be banned by the FDA"


Arielle:

learn either laugh like lacy will look over and she's like are you laughing at your own jokes?

Matt:

you're goddamn right, you're like don't hate me, that was a good joke.

Chad:

That was fucking hilarious okay, big warm welcome to uh cousin greg is joining us today triple g in the house welcome to the show.

Matt:

oh, you know what? Know what Cousin Greg? Sorry, your camera is right here Now I'm blocking it.

Chad:

Bob was busy.

Matt:

So here we go.

Arielle:

There you go.

Chad:

Today, let's get you in there.

Arielle:

So we went deep at the bench.

Chad:

Bobby was Also busy. Also busy Hobbies in Puerto.

Arielle:

Rico, puerto Rico.

Chad:

See you, and I've got a couple people on my list that need to make their presence known, and Cousin Greg is number one.

Matt:

Yeah, I agree.

Chad:

So a warm welcome. Cousin.

Arielle:

Greg is one of our six listeners, so now we're going to lose one because he's heard it live.

Matt:

Honestly, it's our first live recording of the Coach's Group chat right here.

Chad:

Do you listen every week? That's what I listen to on.

Arielle:

Honestly, it's our first live recording of the Coach's Group chat right here. Do you listen every week?

Matt:

What's our best episode? They're all great. Think about it, yeah honestly, he's right.

Chad:

The lost episodes are always the best.

Arielle:

Some of them were unaired and some of them were actually lost.

Chad:

Some of them were literally lost. Okay, we've got a great docket for you guys today.

Matt:

This is an Ariel docket, Let it be known. So she is the captain of the ship right now. You're in charge. She said last week, before we started recording. She said I took over the episode.

Chad:

You hijacked.

Matt:

I hijacked. Yeah, that was the direct word. It was a hijack.

Chad:

So I'm hijacking back. Yep, so I'm hijacking back. Okay, we've got a lot of really great things to talk about, but first we're going to talk about volleyball.

Arielle:

We'll talk about the other things later, let's do it.

Chad:

This is a volleyball podcast.

Arielle:

It's a podcast that talks mostly about NCAA men's collegiate volleyball. It's pretty singularly fast. We have one facet, we have three facets.

Chad:

Today we're going to talk about some other things. We're talking about candy a little bit. We're talking about a tv show today too yeah, that's good.

Matt:

Can I can I read for the listeners aloud, asmr style, that the composite top 10 from the traders bowl?

Arielle:

do you have to do everything asmr style, like I feel, like that's just like I feel, like we, yes, okay actually no, you have to pay extra.

Matt:

You got to pay the premium.

Chad:

Yeah, there's a subscriber.

Matt:

Go to group chat subscriber fee for the ASMR On onlyfanscom All right.

Matt:

Here's the composite. This is the aggregate rankings of all of the contributors. Long Beach State stays at number one even after their split. We got UCLA at two, irvine moves up to three, usc at four, hawaii at five, loy Loyola at six, pep at seven, csun at eight, san Diego at nine and the Honey Badgers of McKendree State at number 10. That's the composite rankings. Take it away. Hijack the mic back, please. Let's hear your thoughts. Where do we want to go with this conversation?

Chad:

Okay, first thing I want to talk about is that, loyola, there's a top group, there's a bottom group, top five's the top group. There's a bottom group, top five's the top group. Top five has been top five is the consistent top group, like if you're in the top five, you're in the top five and I don't know if there's gonna be much movement either way from that for the rest of the season.

Matt:

Hawaii is the only hawaii is the only team that has lost outside of the top five.

Chad:

Like lost to a team that's not in the top five yeah everyone else has only lost to another top five team and that's why they're the number five and we're getting wrecked in the comments from the Hawaii fans and you know what? That's our. That's the reason why they're the only team in the top five that has lost to outside of the top five.

Arielle:

Yeah, there you go. I thought you were just proving that we have an excellent podcast.

Chad:

We have an excellent rankings and an excellent podcast if hawaii fans don't hate it, it's wrong and I'm I'm coming to the outrigger canoe club and I'm gonna hang out I'm gonna relax, and I'm gonna relax on the beach and potentially visit the bar twice yes, exactly. Um, from there we've got some debate and we'll talk about the top five in a minute, but let's talk about the bottoms first, let's talk.

Matt:

Talk about the bottoms for all of our gay listeners out there, okay, the first bottom we'd like to talk about is loyal to chicago.

Chad:

Loyal chicago is not in my number six at all. The reason why they were called out of rotation one time this year and that's it. You don't get to be number six at all. The reason why they were called out of rotation one time this year and that's it. You don't get to be number six in the country and get called out of rotation Done.

Matt:

Yeah, but they're at the top, bottom, right now they are at the top bottom. Right now they're at the top bottom. They beat CSUN, they beat Pepperdine, they beat San Diego.

Chad:

I flipped Pepperdine, but's my reason for everything with them Pepperdine, great, nice team.

Arielle:

Not a lot of big wins.

Chad:

Not a lot of big losses, just cruising down Malibu. They're a middle bottom.

Matt:

They're a middle bottom. They're staying consistent, though they're losing to the teams that they're supposed to lose to. They're beating the teams they're supposed to beat CSUN.

Chad:

My matators Break your heart this weekend.

Matt:

Oh man, they broke my heart. I love that Santa Barbara gets that win, I do. But man, oh man, csun, we got to take care of that one. We got to take care of that one, yeah, but it's CSUN.

Chad:

They got to have some.

Matt:

No, not this year's CSUN, it's a different year. Yeah, this is a different team and I expected better out of them.

Chad:

Should this be?

Matt:

a call to action for CSUN to fly Matt down to go to a game to give a pregame. If you guys need a pump-up speech, I can deliver. I once was told that I wrote the best, best man speech that my grandma ever heard, and I can deliver some great content for you.

Arielle:

It was nice that's one five star review, but this guy can grab the bulls by the bulls.

Matt:

Not to make this all about myself, but, goddamn, I could certainly bring something to the team right now, so let me know what we need to do to make it happen.

Chad:

You're going to have to fly yourself down for that.

Matt:

Yeah, that's fine, I got Southwest points.

Chad:

San Diego made an appearance.

Matt:

San Diego's getting a little bump up here I did not have them in my top 10. Same.

Chad:

I watched. Oh, that could be the DoorDash.

Matt:

It's DoorDash Cousin, greg. Oh, they're calling me recording here, okay, okay, yeah, I'll go back and check in to you in one.

Arielle:

Yeah.

Matt:

Yeah, if you get a duplicate. All good, wendy, this is five-star service from DoorDash right now. So I appreciate you, all right, okay, all right, all right, we'll see you in a bit. We'll be there soon. Okay, okay, bye God. That is the greatest DoorDash conversation I've ever had in my life.

Chad:

That was the easiest DoorDash conversation ever. Wendy's the.

Matt:

GOAT. Absolutely Normally I pick up the phone from DoorDash and I'm like what adventure am I going on?

Chad:

Where are you? By a tree? No way Look around A tsunami.

Matt:

What do you see? You don't speak English. Okay, let's use the translator.

Chad:

Oh my goodness.

Matt:

What do you speak Spanish? Okay, I got you. Let's go to message.

Chad:

You're at the parking lot by the baseball field, send me a photo. We're over by the tennis courts.

Matt:

Send me a photo of what's around you. Just turn in 180 degrees and take a photo that wasn't like that at all. Wendy was like I have everything under control and I will figure out what you need.

Chad:

I just can't remember if you ordered your birthday cake, Peeps.

Matt:

We ruined the surprise for the guests over here. They didn't know we were doing a Peeps review.

Arielle:

We'll crop it and slice it into the right spot.

Chad:

Later in this episode we'll be doing a Peeps tasting.

Arielle:

We'll get Wendy on the pod.

Matt:

We should invite Wendy in.

Chad:

Kyle's going to get them from the door. She's going to be like some guy who looks like Cousin Greg from Succession.

Arielle:

Invited me in to eat peeps.

Chad:

Invited me into their house to eat peeps. That's the weirdest thing that happened to me tonight.

Arielle:

And she's going to be like yeah, oh my goodness Okay.

Matt:

Back to the top ten. Here we had a couple different voters. The bottom of the bottoms, the bottom bottoms we had. So here's the bottom bottoms. We have San Diego. Mchenry and then we had Santa Barbara and Grand Canyon. Those are the, and BYU got one bottom vote as well.

Chad:

Okay, so I put Mc as well. Okay, so, uh, I put mckendry in, you want to know why I put mckendry in why nikki posted on her story what she post. Can't get better if you don't struggle, or something like that, something a little bit more poetic than that actually, but like we get the point but I was like yeah, she coached great.

Chad:

She posted some coach stuff yeah, she posted, posted, like about the loss but not the loss, and like, hey, we're like, hey, we're moving, we learned our lesson. I was like psh and it was right when we were talking about like, who are you putting in your rankings? And I was like, and then I look and I'm swiping through stories and I see Nikki, I'm like McKendree, mckendree's going to mine so. Mckendree got the nod.

Matt:

But first, before we go any further, I'm just going to slide over so my viewers can see here we're pulling up Brad Keller's top ten Useless.

Chad:

Why did you say but first?

Matt:

Oh yeah. That wasn't the right phrase.

Chad:

But now, but now let's talk about Brad Keller's rankings. Okay, because Brad's Okay, brad has his reasons for why he did what he did.

Matt:

You think he's just looking for rage bait.

Chad:

Honestly, who cares? All I know is the best comment that we have ever had in the Coach's Group chat comment section. Let me set the stage for the color first I was setting the stage, but go ahead, matt, go for it.

Matt:

Brad goes Irvine at one, cousin Greg is cracking up over there. Ucla at two, long Beach at three after the uh, after the weekend of irvine it's a funny ranking usc at four. I also. He also dropped usc back. He had them at three last week. It's his, that's his employer and he dropped him back a spot. Hawaiian five this is not the main thing, yeah, yeah so obviously brad's rankings are a little, a little more out there than everyone else.

Chad:

So we put it out there today, get some bunch of people start commenting blah, blah, blah, like brad, brad, brad. And then I read this f later this afternoon. I read is brad related here's a helen with a blind person walking emojis. I was like that is the funniest shit I've ever heard in my life.

Matt:

A Helen Keller joke on our post.

Chad:

I wonder, if he's gotten that before, why are people not saying that?

Matt:

more Volleytalk's going to be all over that one and anytime he does something bad in women's volleyball next year.

Chad:

Helen Keller.

Arielle:

They're pulling out Helen Keller jokes on him. That is the funniest, funniest joke I've ever heard.

Chad:

Have you heard people?

Arielle:

talk to him like that. I've never heard anybody make a reference. Oh, it's incredible. Yeah, we, we know a few killers too.

Chad:

That's so true. Why do we? Why have we not made that joke? I don't think it's a super common person is who made this joke, Like I was like that's hats off to them.

Matt:

Chad your rankings. You have an appearance of grand Canyon at nine and Santa Barbara at 10. I need to know.

Chad:

Is this just?

Matt:

is this just Homerism by you Cause this is your alma mater it is, or what do you? What do you do to back that up?

Arielle:

No, we had to, we had to, we had to boot McKendree, even though it's Nikki two else on the weekend?

Chad:

Yeah, I know, but so what?

Arielle:

Long Beach loses twice and then you boot them to they lost once, and if they lost twice, yeah, they'd, they'd be off. Yeah, 11 to 8. Yeah, yeah, no chance. Okay, yeah, I think Grand Canyon's been playing well again, kind of like pep, like no, no, really bad losses, losses, but like nothing too big, uh. And then santa barbara, yeah, two, two against the the madibles, um, getting getting bianchi back out there I think, it's a huge deal for him, right?

Arielle:

he's had some back stuff and I mean that guy just literally hits twice as many balls as anybody else on the team. So having him in the offense makes them a much better team. So I put put him at 10.

Chad:

That's nice.

Arielle:

And you went to school there and you're a homer.

Matt:

Good shows. Yeah exactly Did you like. Also in your post video or picture I put a nice Ben Pearson shout out for you as well.

Chad:

That's really thoughtful. What is yours?

Matt:

Great question, I don't think I changed yours from last week. I kept Grant Cannon as yours For Great question. I don't think I changed yours from last week. I kept Grand Canyon as yours. Oh nice, yeah for the Lopes, because you got them the highest of everybody else. Yeah, that was our top 10.

Chad:

The other rankings that people don't know that we also post on Mondays.

Matt:

No, no, no, we're going to talk about Long Beach and Irvine.

Chad:

Matt, can you stop, it's my docket.

Matt:

Thank, you, that was on me.

Chad:

Damn it. Thank you, that was on me. That was on me. Matt, lock in, lock in Matt. Okay, let's talk about Long Beach-Irvine, because that was the sold-out, sold-out games of the week.

Matt:

Yeah, how cool was that Double sell-out? I don't remember the last time Irvine sold in a match.

Arielle:

I think I read 2012 with Carson Clark when they were hosting the national finals I don't remember the exact match like hosting the national finals.

Matt:

Yeah, I don't, I don't. I don't remember the exact match, but that was their, their last, the closest attendance, cause they just broke the attendance record on Saturday.

Chad:

Okay, so let's talk about Irvine at long beach night One the three zero annihilation, Okay.

Matt:

First set back and forth very competitive. Long Beach had a set point. You could tell Long Beach was not clicking, their oppo was struggling in the first set. They don't have Satiris in right now because he's been injured and so they've been, you know, kind of used a couple different guys at OH1. They had Sonny Sebastian. Yeah, I think it's. Sebastian on he in at uh oh, two for arm.

Matt:

Uh, he was okay, but you know, lower efficiency. And irvine was just hanging around enough and playing good ball on the first set and was able to pull it out and squeak it away and like they played pretty flawlessly and long beach played well too. But then in the second set once once irvine won, they you could tell that they were like this is ours yeah and long beach was like. We just don't have it right now. Yeah, 22 service errors. They're trying to do.

Chad:

They're trying to do too much at one point.

Matt:

Yeah yeah, set two, they went into a six two, then they went back to the five one with moni in the third set missed a lot of serves.

Chad:

Yeah, which is how it's just gonna go when you're like not clicking and irvine.

Matt:

Irvine hit freaking 460 or whatever on the match. It's like that's you're just not you, that's not your night, and sure enough, come back the next day. And they responded at Irvine. Still pretty competitive. Irvine didn't play bad, but you could just see, long Beach was the Long Beach that we have seen. Way more, way more effective, way more efficient. Tons of service pressure. What did you see? What?

Arielle:

did you see A lot of the same. I mean, it looked like guys just hadn't played in a lot of big matches. The first night for Long Beach, Like some of the new pieces that they're trying to get out there. Then night two right, Long Beach goes with their big lineup.

Arielle:

Kind of match up physically, right, the same change that Niff made at Hawaii to get the three big guys out there as well. Yeah, I, just Irvine was just having their way offensively, like the non-Heno guys. Yeah, right, like not a lot. Darcy had nine kills. Yeah, not a lot out of the middle at all either. Night Right, but just scoring one-on-one on night one at at will and then kind of night two, a little bit better lineup, like people are just getting slowed down a little bit. And then Long Beach guys are hitting balls in bounds. Yeah, inbounds, yeah, I mean they're just too many unforced errors. Night one yeah, but I mean like I was watching that and I had like another match or two like on like a different monitor and I was like this, I'm watching two different sports. Yeah, I felt kind of bad but I was like, oh, these are like dudes playing like this is like international, this is big, like the smallest guys out there at the pin are like six, seven, six, eight yeah like that.

Arielle:

That's insane. And then I'm watching whatever it was.

Matt:

I'm like oh, yeah, I think Heno was the smallest outside. Was Heno the smallest? Maybe the Canadian? I'm blanking on his name right now?

Arielle:

Oh, scarlett Varga, scarlett Varga. He might be a little bit smaller. He's a little bit smaller, but I mean he's still. He's not tiny. There are the teams at the top and there are bottoms.

Chad:

There are tops and there are bottoms. Yeah, the money walk-off ace was sick.

Arielle:

It's cinematic I like that moment.

Matt:

Yeah, there was a lot of high-level play. The third set at Irvine. Irvine kind of had a lead throughout the most of it. Long Beach clawed their way back. It was such high-level back. It was such high level ball. Yeah, it was. It was. It was awesome. And the thing that I would say at night two that was better was it was less Irvine air or less like air prone, like long beach was a night one and it was more long beaches slowing them down. So you got some more like intense rallies, really good transition play. It was a great, highly recommend.

Chad:

Anyone wanted to see some just really good level volleyball I gotta think that coaches all over the country are watching that irvine long beach three zero irvine game being like what? They figured something out with them. Like what is it? They played all their six nine pin areas and or is it just like a complete and total cut and dry, like you beat yourself, or I mean long beach made a lot of unforced like not even like the service air stuff, like that's always a lot of unforced yeah but just like, here's a long way d ball smoked it

Matt:

totally, you know. Get them to jump. Nobody up, nobody up, bick and wail it out of balance yep right there. There were a couple plays that just are so. We're so non long beach. Get them to jump. Nobody up, Nobody up Bic and wail it out of bounds. There were a couple plays that were so non-Long Beach. The question I would pose to you guys is like do you think this is something that Long Beach just needed to happen?

Matt:

Or is it something that you look at the rest of the field? Is this better for Long Beach or is this better for the rest of the field of like oh, we can get them. Or is this better for Long beach or is this better for the rest of the field of like oh, we can get them. Or is this better for long beach, where they're?

Chad:

like all right, we've, we've seen what can happen and we're gonna I lean towards better for long beach. Just because I we were talking about this a couple weeks ago of like how has there been a team that's been undefeated throughout the whole year? Like that whole thing of like cousin greg, can you?

Matt:

you look that up.

Chad:

If there ever been a team that has undefeated the entire year, probably I don't know, I mean UCLA, back in.

Matt:

Yeah, I got to think of one of the states there.

Chad:

But like for real, a team that goes through the entire season at this level of performance. I just don't see it. I just think that there's room for failure at times. What, like what?

Matt:

Nikki said yes on her story.

Arielle:

Do you worry that she? She committed to it too much we've just done one.

Matt:

We have not lost to Ohio State. We learned on the first night.

Chad:

I think Nikki's gonna win the national championship and I think that failure is good for teams.

Arielle:

I think it was good for both those teams and bad for everybody who wasn't in those matches. That I can get behind. Yeah, cause long beach, we'll get that reset. Okay, we're not like perfect, perfect.

Matt:

And we also have that weight on our chest. Yeah.

Arielle:

The zero and the and the loss call.

Chad:

And Irvine's like we're, we are there.

Arielle:

Yeah, and everyone else is like what?

Chad:

the fuck was that Like are you?

Arielle:

kidding me.

Chad:

Are you topping on the bottom.

Matt:

That looks different, that looks different.

Arielle:

Well, these guys, some of those guys, they play over the summer for teams that are better than their countries, they're not school. They play for full-ass, they're not playing open gyms you know with the rec kids you know in june and july.

Chad:

So they play countries yeah, countries, yep, um, okay, so cousin greg's doing some research right now, but cousin greg also is the leader of our high school rankings yes, he is and he he's.

Matt:

He's kind of like a a little bit like brad keller. He gets some flack every single week and I just wanted to give him a chance. Number one we want to let him know he's appreciated because cousin greg does more high school research and work than anybody around.

Chad:

So, number one, we love you, cousin greg and we're trying to get more high school listeners yeah, 100, 100% High schoolers come join us.

Matt:

But also, I just wanted to hear your thoughts. We're bringing you in, we got a mic, you're mic'd up over here, so you got to lean, you got to lean. That's how that mic works. Number one how's your experience been running the high school rankings? And then, number two, if you could give us a little background on what do you feel when you see kids talking shit in the comments.

Arielle:

It's a lot of watching some really bad blowouts and then some really good games. It's kind of a crapshoot. And then if you're not happy about where you're ranked, just don't lose to bad teams.

Chad:

Snaps for Cousin Greg.

Arielle:

That's fair, or be out of rotation probably.

Chad:

Yeah, don't be out of rotation or don't get on your bad side.

Matt:

Do you have any teams where you're like you're just on my bad side, so I hold you down?

Chad:

No, okay yeah, neither do we.

Matt:

Huh, fair, fair.

Chad:

There are tops and there are bottoms.

Matt:

There are, that's just words to live by, honestly.

Arielle:

I can't wait to see what like makes the episode yeah. Just like how many of these can you leave in.

Matt:

Yeah.

Arielle:

Is that too many?

Matt:

at some point. I'll ask Frank, I'll get Frank to kind of filter.

Chad:

Oh don't worry, frank will let it fly.

Matt:

Frank will add some commentary.

Chad:

Not enough bottoms actually from Frank. Okay, so that's volleyball yeah let's get out of volleyball. We went to some high school games. We're going to be making the rounds. We're going to be going to some more high school games. What?

Arielle:

do you mean?

Chad:

We're going to be going to more high school games, okay, yeah.

Matt:

Cool, Chad. You were at one of them with us. You were at one of them.

Arielle:

With Cousin Greg Greg as well. I felt like I hit my quota. I thought that was.

Matt:

Oh, no, I'm going to more.

Chad:

I got to go see all my kids play.

Matt:

Yeah, I'm trying to see most. I'm trying to see as many of my guys as I can. The problem is I got, you've got, all varsity I've got. I got JV too. I got JV and varsity.

Chad:

If I had a kid on JV of all time Worst volleyball player, but like the greatest human being, that's true, but I've had some great human beings on my team and they've all been on varsity yeah because you're coaching 18s.

Matt:

Correct, that makes sense. I'm coaching 15s. I got freshmen.

Chad:

No, I get that. There's levels. There's levels to this. There is level. Okay, so let's, we're done with volleyball. If you're here just for the volleyball, it volleyball. It's time to turn the podcast off. You can go switch to your other nerdy podcast check out redefined yeah wherever you listen to this podcast um, okay, we need to talk about the show adolescence I have not seen it okay, so there's a show on and chad has seen it I thought it was excellent cousin greg has not seen it yet.

Chad:

Um, I just finished it and it is four episodes. It's on Netflix and I had seen it come up a couple times and was like this is the must watch thing right now and I'm not watching a lot of shows lately and I just haven't been like into it. I usually love shows, but this one, for some reason, I was like I think I'm going to try it. I absolutely loved it. Told Matt what it was about, he was like yeah right, I'm not watching that now.

Arielle:

I'm making you watch it because it's important it's the lord's work, I think for the jobs that you guys have, I think it's an important. What is?

Matt:

it about again. It's like, it's like psychology, what is it?

Chad:

no, okay, so set the scene. Kid convicted of murdering a classmate. This is the the trailer I showed you about incels, oh, okay, yeah, so it's about incel culture and I like I won't give anything away because I want everybody to watch it, but I think that if you are in, if you have sons, if you are around teenage boys, if you are like, you need to watch this show because it is like in middle schoolers, whatever, like you, just because it's a, it's so important to just see, like, what is going on with kids that are quiet and with screens and with and I am such a big advocate of like teaching kids the right way to use screens. I'm not a for take them away, but like this is it was incredible. Another fun fact about this show is that it was shot. It's 50 minute episodes, four episodes, 50 minute episodes and like from start to beginning or start to end of the episode, it's shot in one shot.

Matt:

That's. That is insane. So, like it follows just a one or the whole show.

Chad:

Like the. There's no cuts, so it's like one. Each episode is one cut.

Matt:

That in and of itself makes me want to watch it.

Chad:

I mean it's, it's a cinematic masterpiece.

Arielle:

It's insane. I didn't even notice it because you would. What is shot like this? Nothing right. And I didn't notice until the second episode. I was like so is it?

Matt:

is it like a drone? That's like the constantly changing angles, like they have.

Arielle:

No, they have people running around too. But like, sometimes, like the, there's a drone that will take the camera. Like, yeah, and they, they track the car and then they land the drone and then somebody picks it and keeps this.

Matt:

Oh, I've seen TikTok videos about the making of this shot.

Chad:

Probably. Yeah, they're crazy, it's insane.

Matt:

Okay, got it, got it, got it. We're piecing it all together. Yeah, I've seen exactly that, like the camera gets picked up by a drone and it drops down out of a building and they'll take it on the run yeah, that's crazy.

Chad:

So they they like rehearse for like two weeks straight to like get it all dialed and they would shoot twice a day until they had it yeah and they, they just every day, like, all right, we're gonna try it once to me it's like second time, here we go, it's like a play, it's like it's like a live performance yeah and it's like they're acting and like the whole. But it's a live performance because it's from one to the end.

Matt:

Oh yeah, what an orchestra you have to put together there.

Arielle:

That's crazy. Well, the cinematography is one thing of navigating how you're going to move throughout space. The story Dude, if you forget your line, if you screw up your line, if you laugh when you're not. There were a couple of times I'm like, oh man, like he like kind of, you know, muffles a word or like doesn't, but they keep going.

Chad:

I'm like that could have been it, and then I was like wait, they haven't cut at any point.

Arielle:

Yeah oh my god, like this is it's.

Chad:

It's crazy I'm so glad you watched this.

Arielle:

Yeah, yeah but the the story. It's like it's shot amazingly and like we should talk about that, but like it's, it's important, like in general like especially just working with with who kids?

Matt:

yeah, yeah, interesting okay completely agree, all right I'm next week.

Chad:

I'll be ready, I'll be prepared it's, it's dark, like it's not a.

Arielle:

It's really eerie it's not a feel. Good, it's not a feel good show.

Chad:

It's not funny, it's not like it's a. It's a very intense about a kid that is convicted of murdering a classmate and what happened behind the scenes and the family's point of view and the police point of view and work as a police officer having to deal with a 13-year-old like like the psychology of it, the it's incredible and something that a couple of the articles that I read about it were like how important parents and teachers and coaches and are in kids lives, because without that influence, this is the kind of stuff that happens.

Matt:

This is you replace that exterior like.

Chad:

Well, the incel culture is like what is happening online and that's what like young boys are trapped into, Like it's just automatic that, like that can happen.

Matt:

Right, they're going to get their guidance from somewhere. Yes, their external coaches, teachers, so on and so forth. Or they're getting it from, if you're not monitoring kids.

Chad:

Talk about entertaining. If you're not monitoring what's going on kids' brains who are not fully developed, how do you expect that stuff not to infiltrate minds of people? And so it's incredible.

Matt:

Wow.

Chad:

We have homework. We have homework seven for next week we'll just see you because we yeah, we watched it homework, sorry, I'll watch it and the listeners actually, I will say one of my favorite things to do is watch something for the second time with somebody who hasn't watched it for the first time.

Arielle:

It's like one of my favorite ways to watch a movie sounds like you're gonna have a an opportunity here this week. Oh yes, I will.

Chad:

Four of them actually have lots of opportunities like that, because matt's like, nah, I don't want to watch that. And then I watch it and I'm like, no, you have to watch it now.

Matt:

So, uh, yeah, so marshmallows oh do we, are they here?

Chad:

Wendy.

Matt:

Yeah, I feel like if she didn't call me to say she loves me. Yeah, if she didn't knock on the door to share a peep. It's been delivered.

Chad:

What the hell, Wendy.

Arielle:

Matt.

Chad:

Wendy was like I don't want to be friends with these people.

Arielle:

That's probably fair. They got way too much affection for peeps.

Chad:

I felt like I had a connection with them and I've been told not to make friends with the DoorDashies.

Arielle:

I can't fall in love every household.

Matt:

I'm so sad. I know, Wendy. I literally just checked my text messages to see if she sent me something.

Chad:

Why don't you give her a nice tip?

Matt:

Yeah, let.

Chad:

Okay, everybody, we're live. Okay, so this is our. It's not live, this is our bowl of peeps. We have an assortment we have, starting with a original yellow peep, then moving on to the blue peep.

Arielle:

Yo, I only have one blue peep.

Chad:

I knew it.

Arielle:

You mother, I knew it Trying to short me, I knew it.

Chad:

I was like why are there more in that one? Sorry Apologies, unbelievable.

Arielle:

Okay, is that blue raspberry? That's blue raspberry. Yeah, all right, I'm going to keep blue raspberry on the left.

Chad:

Okay, so, starting with the yellow peep, moving on to the purple one and then the blue one, Okay, you tell us which one to taste and we'll listen to me first, okay, and then we have, we have a difference between the purple peep and the and the purple bunny we just want to make sure that they're not different yeah um, and then the pink peep, and then the wait. What is that kind? The cotton candy?

Chad:

peep the tutti frutti looking guy the rice crispy treat, peep the blue icy peep and my, the one I'm most excited about is the. Dr Pepper peep. What would we like to try? First the yellow peep. No, you know what that tastes like. The blue peep, which one? The blue, yellow, yellow. Start with the original.

Matt:

I'm going to sniff. You got to go full peep sommelier on this 10 out of 10.

Arielle:

It's classic. Yeah, no notes.

Chad:

Okay, blue peep Is the blue peep different than the yellow peep? Blue.

Matt:

Not light blue.

Chad:

Yes, it's different.

Arielle:

Obviously you can't taste that I mean cut out your tongue.

Matt:

It's different. It tastes like blue.

Arielle:

Yeah.

Matt:

What are we going to do next?

Chad:

Purple peep. They taste very similar, Purple purple, not the bunny. Purple peep Proper proper Okay making sure. Don't want to do this wrong.

Arielle:

That tastes like it's got a little yellow in it. To me, yeah, that tastes like yellow.

Matt:

The yellow peep. It tastes like the yellow. I agree. Should I do the bunny next?

Chad:

but I will say the yellow is better than that it's fair.

Arielle:

Now I have to take a bite of the yellow.

Chad:

Yellow might be fresher closer to easter the yellow one's better than the purple one. The purple one tastes like the yellow one. The blue one tastes different, though yeah, purple one's like the yellow one purple one again the bunny and then go purple bunny oh, gotta get on the palate again okay I like the bunny better the purple bunny is so much fluffier, yeah, so fluffy, oh but. I don't like that wow quick question purple bunny is chubby bunny, yeah can I, can we do?

Matt:

can you do like a s'more with? A yes of course I feel like the sugar, would it's?

Chad:

a marshmallow caramel? Yeah, but the caramelized sugar would make up. I've never done that. Okay, now the pink peep.

Arielle:

The pink pink.

Matt:

These are all like the originals, right. Not gonna lie Thus far. I'm liking the texture of the bunnies better than the peeps, I don't fuck with the bunnies.

Arielle:

It's too puffy, it's not a peep. I like how puffy it's.

Matt:

It's not a peep I like how puffy it is.

Arielle:

Yeah, it's, it's, it's like a cloud I'm more of like cutting season than bulking season, I think on this one, like the bunny, it's too fluffy I want the texture of the like.

Chad:

Is it stale?

Arielle:

fucking gets it. Yes, yes, that's question.

Chad:

Did we just become best friends? We love adolescence and we love, is it?

Matt:

stale. Is it stale, peeps Okay.

Arielle:

So we've tried all of these are not good. So we've tried all of the originals Like you need like the right amount of stale, like that borderline of like, is it?

Matt:

Got it, got it. That's where you want to be.

Arielle:

Yeah, can tell for sure you're wrong then you don't want that one. Yeah, that was the check, the expiration. It's the wrong holiday okay.

Chad:

So if we were gonna rank these ones that we've, matt likes the bunny because he's fucking purple, but like shocker but we like the yellow peep the best and the rest of them are just like whatever.

Arielle:

But the blue peep tastes different right, yeah, for sure that's the okay I don't, I don't mind the pink, the the pink had a little bit more crunch to me.

Chad:

Sure, I don't mind that at all. Okay, now we're going to get into the eclectics. Kyle, any or not Kyle, cousin, greg any, god damn it.

Arielle:

Any.

Chad:

I'm nodding on the bunny. You don't like the bunny yeah?

Matt:

Not the bunny, take each of their own. Also quick question did you guys bite when you do a taste test?

Chad:

did you bite the eyes? You're not taking the chocolate eyes no, you eat a peep from the back bottom first. I ate front first. I've been trying different sections just to bottom first because you're trying oh, I did go front on that one. You want the crunchy part?

Matt:

It's kind of like that's the tri-tip of the peep.

Arielle:

The burnt ends. The burnt ends, it's where the section's kind of folded.

Chad:

You get a good crispy sugar. I didn't even realize they were chocolate.

Matt:

I had a little chocolate.

Chad:

Okay, what do we want to try?

Matt:

first of the weird ones, let's try which one I think is going to be the worst, which is going to be cotton candy, smell it.

Chad:

You've got to smell. Do you have to? I don't like it, I do.

Arielle:

Oh, it's pink on the inside, come on.

Chad:

That is disgusting, honestly. Who would eat that?

Arielle:

It smells like cotton candy. I'll give them that. That it smells like cotton candy. I'll give them that it smells, it tastes like a carcinogen that's not good for you that has a chemical taste where they get the blue speckles, which peeps had to die to be why does it smell like cotton candy and not taste like cotton candy? Oh man, chemicals man.

Chad:

Ew. Okay, that we need to make sure is not in our house.

Matt:

Take a bite of the yellow, cleanse your palate, yeah there you go.

Arielle:

That's an O-Chem kind of thing right there.

Chad:

Okay, I think I want to taste the.

Matt:

Rice Krispie, rice Krispie, think I want to taste the rice crispy, rice crispy next okay, definitely smells like rice crispy.

Chad:

They get they got the sense down this whatever vanilla is in this, I don't like that plays it's kind of as advertised, yeah I think it's way better than the last one I don't want to eat it.

Arielle:

No, I don't want to eat it. No, I don't want to eat it, but it's what it says. It is Sure I'll meet them in the middle. They are who they thought they were.

Matt:

Yeah, that is who, who you thought they were.

Chad:

I well, I have to say that one of my favorite things about the yellow peep is that it's yellow on the outside and white on the inside.

Matt:

That's all of the original Peeps.

Chad:

None of these ones are.

Matt:

Yeah, all the flavored ones are the flavored ones.

Chad:

Oh, actually the Dr Pepper one is Ooh.

Arielle:

Okay, let's try this. That's why we like that one. Yeah, yeah, Okay. Blue Blue raspberry.

Chad:

Blue icy.

Arielle:

So blue raspberry, I just tried to smell my mic, ooh.

Chad:

Mmm, I like that.

Matt:

Yeah, that's a nice little change of pace.

Chad:

That gets a good rating from me.

Matt:

Yeah, the fluffiness of it kind of like reminds me of an icy, also, I like that.

Arielle:

I like that too. I think it's like the Rice Krispie it is what we thought it was and I like Blue Raspberry more than I like Rice Krispie, and I like Rice Krispie more than I like Tutti Frutti.

Chad:

Dude, Tutti Frutti, fucking. Tutti Frutti causes cancer. That is. That should not be allowed. There's no way these are sold in Europe. Actually, none of these are sold in. Europe no chance. Okay, for the one that I am the most excited about.

Matt:

Dr Pepper, that's a big deal. Got yet again nailed the scent.

Arielle:

They're good on the scent.

Chad:

Oh.

Arielle:

Why can't I smell the tutti frutti?

Chad:

already hit you.

Arielle:

You have COVID.

Chad:

Oh.

Matt:

Yeah, I love that. That's like a Dr Pepper Slurpee. Yeah, I love that. I's like a Dr Pepper Slurpee. Yeah, I love that.

Arielle:

I think we went in the right order of things that we like the flavor of, and this one again tastes Dr Peppery. Okay Full peep drinking Dr Pepper.

Chad:

Number one.

Arielle:

Oh, of all nine.

Chad:

Yellow Peep number one. Yeah, to me Dr Pepper is number two.

Matt:

I think I'm going Blue Icy number two, Blue Icy number two. I'm going Purple Bunny one. Blue Icy number two.

Arielle:

Why is he even on the show Are?

Chad:

you the Brad Killer. This is Brad Killer, little shit. You're the Brad Killer of peep rankings.

Arielle:

There's a Helen Keller joke about her not being able to smell.

Chad:

We're going to have to spitball it a little bit before we play it.

Matt:

What's your bottom of the barrel, besides cotton candy?

Chad:

The purple bunny.

Matt:

All right, fuck off. I thought we were pretty clear about that.

Chad:

Honestly, I could do without the pink peep and the purple peep and the blue peep, like they're all just whatever. Actually, that's not true, fucking Tutti Frutti. It's not Tutti Frutti, it's cotton candy peeps. Cotton candy peeps need to be banned by the FDA tomorrow.

Matt:

I like to pretend that the peeps are like a steak Is wrong.

Chad:

Peeps are like a steak.

Matt:

Yeah, that the peeps are like a steak Is wrong. Peeps are like a steak, yeah, and that every different part of the peep has a different flavor profile. We have the tops are a loin.

Chad:

The tops and the bottoms.

Matt:

We have yeah.

Chad:

That's enough peeps from marshmallow for me tonight. I'm going to put these away. I don't really Wow. Okay, well, easter's over everybody. Thank you for coming to our Peeps Tasting. Thank you to Cousin Greg for his support of the podcast. Thank you to the Academy. Thank you to the Academy for telling us about adolescence.

Arielle:

We filmed this in one shot.

Chad:

We filmed this in one shot too.

Arielle:

Except we had 50 cuts. We only said cut. That's to add to the ambiance.

Chad:

Yellow Peep wins again.

Arielle:

Yellow.

Chad:

Peep is the Long Beach of Peep. You're welcome.

Matt:

Does that make the Purple Peep the UC Irvine? The Purple Bunny is the McKenzie. No, I'm sorry, that's not true. That's not true. You're welcome. Does that make the purple peep the uc irvine bunny? The purple bunny?

Chad:

no I'm sorry, that's not true, that's not true I like, I like mckendry so rude I like mckendry, that's all right, the purple bunny, I can't talk about it you don't want to put that curse on anyone.

Arielle:

No, I like it though, so that's where everyone everyone's like the blue raspberry or something like that of like who's the dr pepper? I can do it. It's got. It's got the legs like it, though Irvine's like the blue raspberry, or something like that.

Chad:

Who's the Dr Pepper?

Arielle:

It can do it, it's got the legs.

Matt:

It can finish.

Arielle:

It won't be everyone's top vote.

Matt:

Is it my first pick?

Arielle:

No, but hey, you run this contest ten times.

Chad:

They're going to get two of those, maybe three.